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is a special buy. just $199. good morning. i'm chris jansing. they are calling it friday of rage in egypt. we have just learned that the anti-coup coalition says their marches towards ramseys have come under attack near the square. 25 people they say have been killed so far and that follows what appears to be the worst mass killing in that country's history. on wednesday, 638 people dead, thousands more wounded. in response president obama canceled joined military exercises with the egyptians but stopped short of canceling the $1.3 billion in aid. >> while we want to sustain our relationship with egypt our traditional cooperation could not continue as usually when vif silveians are killed in the streets and rights are being rolled back toipt bring in "the
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washington post" karen and steve. steve, first i want to talk about what is happening right now. thousands marching in the street. we just got those unconfirmed reports of 25 people dead. the statement they put out was that their revolution is peaceful but what is your take on this? is egypt on the brink of a civil war? >> that is a matter he debate out there. there are various egypt experts saying no, i've talked to a number muslim brotherhood members last night and the previous night and the rage and anger and frustration is palpable and so dramatic what they are experiencing that it's very hard for me not to see that this is not taking us into conditions that could lead to a very deep civil war that is driven by a lot of sectarian tensions. we have seen a lot of muslim brotherhood attacks on churches as well and the muslim
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brotherhood itself is divided between those that continue to want to stage massive peaceful protesters and others are simply so angry that they want to organize their own military and somewhat violent response to what is going on and really take the military on much more directly. we are going to have a lot of conflict. to me it looks like a civil war but we will debate that like the word coup around the white house. >> the white house in the meantime, is watching this carefully obviously. chuck hagel, we are told, call the general 15 times since this all started. karen, they just don't seem to be listening, though, obviously. none of them warnings from the united states have held any weight. does holding out this aid give leverage? is that something that is a nonstarter for this white house? we are seeing the debate among members of the senate. where is the white house on all of this? >> the president's statement yesterday was an impression i think of frustration with the lack of leverage that the united states has and the lack of maneuvering room they believe
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they have. this canceling military exercises is a pretty modest step but what the administration is afraid of here is doing anything to sort of stir the anti-american sentiment that is very deep on both sides of this conflict and to essentially give the egyptian military something that they could use as, you know, almost a rallying tool which is mobilizing people's frustration and hatred of the united states in egypt. it's a very difficult situation. this military aid is a big deal but egypt is now getting so much more aid from other middle eastern countries. >> the other argument that people make, steve, if we pull the money, somebody else will fill in the gaps and others
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countries we don't want picking up the slack and there are other broader concerns about the influence of the united states with egypt going forward. israel security. where is this debate going, do you think? >> i've been arguing the last couple of days this was a lot like tiananmen where we imposed major sanctions on china after their bloody crackdown on democracy protesters but because we need to have an serious engagement with china. i look at egypt the same. we can't was hew waway. i we are distracted by the military aid issue in an incorrect way. we have a very profound and deep relationship between our u.s. military command staff and egypt's, as well as between our intelligence communities. the human relationships are very deep, very broad. nearly every member of egypt's
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command staff and their officer corps have been brought through the national defense university and various military exchange and training programs in the united states. there's a lot of human relationships there and that's why chuck haigal has been the appropriate point person. that cannot be easily replaced by russia or any other contender that may be much more fickle in its relationship with egypt. that is why the miscalculation of the general is so dramatic here because there is -- they are threatenedeniing a very dee relationship. >> senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you about those human relationships versus the aid. where do you stand on the aid issue? is there a point at which you would be in favor of cutting it off? >> that is the concern. i mean, i think the previous guest put his finger right on the main issue here is we develop these relationships over
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decades. egypt is incredibly critical nation in terms of stability of the middle east and stability between israel and israel is key to the region. if we withdraw that aid, you can very easily blow those relationships that have been developed over decades. that is why there has been a reluctant i think on congress and part of this administration to pull it, even though is incredibly popular and that is a concern. it's so politically foreign aid to egypt and in general. it is the only threat of influence we still have in that situation and, you know, the instability in egypt really threatens the region. >> as you know, your colleague john mccain has said that the united states has already violated its own rule of law by not calling this what it is which is a coup. does he have a point? >> he does have a point. and i think a number of us in the senate certainly were willing to offer the president
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the flexibility to try and exert some kind of influence, but that does not seem to be working right now. really when you see the total almost lack of influence we have in egypt, you know, previous guest was talking about the element universal resentment of the united states. that is really a decades long mismanagement of our relationship with egypt. we would never put appropriate conditions, we never held the mubarak regime accountable to on opening up to more democratic process and we are just seeing a culmination of that mismanagement of our relationship. we really have to do certainly a revel-evaluation of how we readminister the aid in the future. >> what would those conditions be? >> opening up societies to a more democratic process. using america as an example in terms of our democratic process, allowing more minority rights involved in the process. but quite honestly, i wish this president would have been far
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more outspoken during the morsi regime in terms of their crackdown on gdemocracy. the crackdown on the ngos we did not forcefully call the morsi regime on that. as a result, we have people on both sides of whether it's the military or whether it's the morsi regime, the muslim brotherhood they resent us and it's a shame. it's a lack of leadership and demonstrate of weakness from the american standpoint within the region so we are not respected by the people in that region and that is a real problem. >> senator ron johnson, thank you so much. let me bring back our journalists and switch topics. i know you both saw this report of the new leak from former nsa contractor edward snowden. . shows the nsa is breaking the rules and overstepping its
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bounds. internal audit showed it violated privacy rules 2,776 times. what more can you tell us about this nsa program, karen? >> this is a report this morning by our colleague bart geldman on the front page of "the washington post." i think the absolute most charitable description of what we have seen in this audit is incredibly sloppiness on the part of the nsa. there was one instance in there, for instance, where they thought they were typing in the country code of egypt and instead they put in 202 and put in something else. this is was an internal report. there were strong indications that the agency itself has a policy of not providing its own supposed overseers with any more
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what they refer to as extraneous information than they have to. it seems an effort to keep the agencies and courts that are supposed to be overseeing them in the dark about a lot of their both, you know, policies, but also their inadvertent mistakes and how easy it is to make those. >> supporters of the overall program have put this in the context of overall war on terror and how effective and important this has been. the snas nsa released this stat, quote. steve, nancy pelosi released a statement calling this extremely disturbing. are we going to see more movement on this whole issue? >> i certainly hope so. another of karen's colleagues,
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dana priest, has chronicled how pathetic the congressional oversight is of the intelligence machinery of the country and i think this report continues to show that. what is disturbing to me about this report and karen raised with the issues of the various typos is how powerful algorithms are. when you're punching in data and so much is digitized the accident flow that comes out of these areas. a book by jim risen called "state of war," to connect that to that there was the -- showing our contacts in iran that were disclosed to the public because of another kind of similar error. so i think that we need to get in and see congress really review its own oversight of these bureaucracies. >> you put in 202 versus 20 that
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could result in what it did, it boggles the mind for the possibilities here. thank you both so much for coming on. have a good weekend. >> you too. 2016 is being called the year of the presidential woman. hillary clinton in particular. big conference about to convene this morning to make that happen. and just to get more women into politics overall. i'll be talking with actress and activist morgan fairchild and women's advocate sandra fluk coming up next. fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief!
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in just hours, the latest effort to help break the ultimate glass ceiling kicks off in san francisco. the political action committee emi emily's list which supported hillary clinton in 2008 will host a forum. the goal? send her and more female democrats to washington. one of today's headliners is
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texas state senator wendy davis who is filibuster made her a national name and landed her a profile in the september issue of "vogue" magazine. another headliner joins me now is sandra fluke and morgan fairchild. >> good morning. >> the first six months of the year for female candidates and i know you're speaking at this event in san francisco. what is your message? >> we are talking about how far we still have to go but how important it is that we get there on electing more women at the federal level, at the state level, at the local level and what a difference that makes to small girls to be able to see women in office. >> we have had conversations on this program. we have had women senators here who have talked about how different the dynamic is in a
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room when they are women in a meeting as opposed to men. what is your big picture here? >> i think if we truly want to have a democracy we have to make sure our government looks like our population. and right now, it doesn't. so it makes a difference on issues like immigration reform which we of as, quote/unquote, a women's issue but when there aren't women at the table we don't talk about how women are affected differently by immigration policies but it makes a difference to young girls in terms of role models and in the example of secretary cl clinton. >> it's interesting by contrast. democratic national committee said this yesterday. >> the biggest thing that we have a problem with women running for office is we don't ask them. for whatever the reason, women need to be asked to run for on office on. we need to reach out and find
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those women and when we do, they about him unbelievably talented leaders. >> is that the problem they haven't just asked women to run? >> i think there are a variety of concerns about how we get more women into office. it's not only about asking women which is something we need to do but also about making sure the party leadership and those elected in office are looking for women to succeed them so there is a lot of work we have to do. in terms of the republican party specifically, i do hope that they succeed in getting more women to run. we need to have women representing diverse ideological perspectives but in terms of the voter base, they are not getting the mantle of women votes until their policies change. >> you have a broader perspective on this. in '92 you helped to elect in what was called the weird women in the senate.
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where do you think about where we are now? do you think we would have already had a woman president? >> you kind of thought so. back in '92 i was on the board of the women's hollywood committee which was the largest democratic pact on the west coast. when you have that effect of both senators getting elected you thought it would keep growing. instead it expanded a bit and seemed to short of stop. so i think -- i think a lot of us thought there would be a president by now. all of these other countries have had female presidents. >> what do you think happened, morgan? one possibility is women aren't being asked but when you talk to people who go to recruit women they do talk about certain difficulties that they have had doing that. >> about asking women? >> no, just about getting women agree to do it. why do you think that is? >> because women are smart and take a look at it and see all of the mess that it is and say why would i bother with that? >> why get myself into this very partisan atmosphere? >> i think sometimes women are not driven by the same -- albeit
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testosterone power thing that pushes men to get into politics, that sometimes some of the men i've dealt with that were running for office over the years and in fact, there have been a few cases recently saying why do you want to be president and there is not really an answer. it's just because it's there and you want to do it. women approach things very differently. they approach problem solving differently and they approach running for office differently in that they want to know that they can accomplish something. women tend to juggle households and juggle jobs and all of these things and don't want to put that aside and risk their kids and know an problem with the kids and put their whole family to risk with the dirt dug up and the issues you'll deal with unless they think they will be able to accomplish something. >> when you talk about dirt, we have not seen women in the sex scandals the way we have seen the men. >> but they do all of that and dig up everything, everybody you
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ever dated in grade school, you know? >> for research. >> exactly. >> in 2012, we did have the most women ever elected to the senate, 20 following 2008 when hillary clinton came so close and sarah palin was on the ticket. is this going the year, do you think? you've been a supporter of hillary clinton in the past. >> i certainly hope so. and i think the republicans also have a few women that could be in their lineup. we will see who they choose to go with. >> it is interesting, isn't it? when you hear people talk about what if hillary doesn't run. i will say the list of women who could potentially run for office on the democratic side and a few on the republican side as well run for president is longer than it's ever been. >> oh, it's great. and some of the women that are coming along now that really have just jumped in feet first and really making their mark in the senate, kristen gillibrand and elizabeth warren and those are getting out there taking on the heavy issues instead of meekly sitting in the back
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benches to get their feet wet and women are jumping in feet first and that is great and gives them a chance to move up the pecking order a lot faster and even if they don't run for president reach chairmanships of committees and things like that. >> are you seeing the number of women candidates is inspiring more women, not necessarily to run, but to get involved, to get involved in fund-raising, those kinds of things like that? >> i think so. women want to know they can make a difference. the thing is with some of the things being passed estate in state legislature the onerohon n women to vote more easy than before. when you feel challenged or when you feel that something could be from that you thought was a constitutional right that is a very activating force all
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. an emotional confrontation is fanning the names of a already heated political debate over marijuana. in new jersey the governor chris ka christie expected today this bill. he was confronted by a parent whose daughter has a rare form. he acceptsy. that happened as delaware's governor jack markell decided to move forward with a scaled down plan to legalize medical marijuana. in oregon the governor signed a bill to let marijuana sold at retail outlets. i want to bring in republican strategic chip callsman and gary johnson. good morning, gentlemen.
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>> good morning. governor, chris christie said he is concerned that parents would end up using the marijuana if children get easier access but it is hard, i must say, to watch a parent pleading for what he says is his daughter's life. what is the political risk here for chris christie, do you think? >> none. two states now have voted to legalize marijuana. colorado and the state of washington. >> for recreational use. >> exactly. so when it comes to medical marijuana, really isn't this a no-brainer and should anybody be denied the ability to relieve the pain or the malady that they might be suffering from? this is a no-brainer. 75% of americans support medical marijuana. >> the last poll i saw said that it was a clear majority for legalizing marijuana as well. 52%. chip, is it just a matter of time before the laws catch up with public opinion? >> i certainly hope not.
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marijuana is one of those drugs, i know governor johnson and kind of the libertarian part of the party wantedo legalize it but i've never seen anything good come come out of marijuana. as far as the political parts what christie has to do a week ago he was criticizing rand paul for his brand of libertarian. i'm pretty sure they will be opposed to something like this. >> chip, you've been an advocate of legalizing marijuana. you know part of the argue against it and it's just a perception out there. i think particularly in some of the states that chip just mentioned, some of the southern states, some of the more conservative states, that we are going to end up a nation of potheads. >> well, that's absolutely ridiculous. chris, i don't smoke marijuana. i don't drink alcohol, but i've
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drank alcohol and i've smoked marijuana. the big reason that marijuana was such a wonderful alternative to alcohol was was that really it didn't have the negative effects of alcohol. it was like -- it was like there weren't any side effects to it. so marijuana is much, much safer than alcohol and the fact that we have got 2.2 million people behind bars, the fact that we continue to arrest 1.8 million people a year in this country on drug-related crime, half of those, hundr900,000 arrests sti occur regarding marijuana. imagine all of those resources freed up to address real crime. look. i think in colorado and washington state, we are going to see that the sky isn't falling, that the world is really a better place when police can get up in the morning and go out and enforce real crime as opposed to to
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nonviolent victimless crime. >> chip, is the strongest argument on the other side people who are in favor of legalizing marijuana really an economic one just what you heard the governor say that the resources that are now being used in those criminal pursuits can go elsewhere but also there is a lure for a lot of states and they are talking about the possibility of the tax dollars that can flow in. >> but chasing the tax dollars shouldn't be above what is right. governor johnson said it has no side effects. i've seen side effects of people who started out smoking marijuana in high school and college and friend of mine who never quite recovered and never got back in the mainstream and never did that. did some people smoke marijuana and live on fine? there is a lot of science saying this is a drug that is harmful to human beings and shouldn't be used so i disagree with governor johnson and i think if the states make the decision to chase tax dollars are doing the right thing. i think most of the states will
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decide it's not the right thing to do. >> we expect to hear today from governor christie and see what he decides in this particular case. thanks to both of you. >> sign the bill, chris! sign the bill! >> chris christie, he is meaning, not me! teachers and students who survive that devastating tornado in moore, oklahoma, return to the classrooms today. >> they need to come in here books to read and carpet to sit on and nice chairs and nice desks. all of those are important. >> the twister killed 25 people including seven students from pla plaza towers elementary. the new school is being built and have a tornado shelter and protect students should the sirens go off ever again. jane richard lost on part of her leg in the boston marathon bombing. her family relieved this photo
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saying jane is already dancing with her prosthetic. she lost her 8-year-old brother martin in the attack. she hopes to be back in school in a few weeks. >> darren young wants to be a role model for those who can't to come out as gay. young this morning talked on "today" about why he did it. >> he felt like it was the right place and the right time and i feel by coming out, i'm going to make a big difference in a lot of people's lives. >> young said last night, he talked to nba star jason collins who also recently came out. he said collins gave him advice on how to deal with the public in sports going forward. stock is trying to bounce back after wall street's worse day in two months. cnbc mandy drury is here. how is it looking in the first hour of trading? hich >> it's looking okay. the s&p is flat but it's
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stabilizing a little bit today. as for what happened yesterday, you know, we have got a confluence of negative factors out there which have weighed on the market a little bit late. the fear of the fed pulling back. you've got long-term interest rates rising. in other words, bond yield to rising and that makes the cost of borrowing higher for a lot of people. also some warnings from companies and you got a lot of low volume out there being summer and all, that really exacerbates the moves we are seeing in the market. today we are stabilizing and managed to pull, you know, pull our heads up. the dow is up just about 22 points here. this is despite the fact that we had even more deserti in disconcerting news from nordstrom which cut its profit outlook for the year. remember was this on talk of tepid outlooks for walmart and macy's which is warning us about the u.s. state of economy going forward. >> thank you, mandy. >> thank you. speaking of lots of cash. the huffington post has a slide
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syndrome or rls, you may have a higher mortality rate than your peers. new data from a harvard school of public health shows more men are a 40% higher risk for early death. researchers plan more studies to determine why. bravo andy cohen known for "watch what happens" is bowing out as this year's co-host of miss universe contest has that is in russia. it allows police to jail and fine anyone who is suspected of supporting gay rights. cohen isn't the only one speaking out. joining me now olympic track athlete nick simmons who denounced the law while in russia. good to see you, nick. good morning. >> thanks for having me. >> you won the silver on tuesday so congratulations on that. but then you dedicated that
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medal to your gay and lesbian friends back home. what is the point you wanted to make? >> my job out here was to compete and represent team usa and ultimately win a medal. in doing that i thought i had the opportunity to speak out against these laws which, in my opinion, are absurd and unfair. >> well, we have seen the reports that under this new law, foreign citizens who violate it could face hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and could be jailed for 15 days and they could be deported. you're straight. so why was it so important that you took what clearly was a risk? >> well, i guess we are all trying to figure out what that risk is right now. the law is written in a very ambiguous way. we are not sure what, you know, defines breaking the law here. that is part of the reason this is a big story as americans and the rest of the world comes here for soldiery, this law is going to be tested a little bit. i am straight, but it's been
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important for me to speak up against any inequality as i see. this law violates freedom of speech and i'm in agreement of those things. >> what has the reaction been in russia since you made those comments? >> overwhelmingly, i think over here, they are a bit more conservative. i haven't been interacting with the russians too much. mostly between the hotel and the we saw some speak out in favor of laws. culturally it's different here. >> you mentioned sochi. that is a big deal and some calls because of the whole edward snowden nsa controversy to boycott the becomes tholympi. what has the conversation been
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like as you've been there within the athlete community and how worried you are about what might happen when the games get under way? >> certainly as an athlete, i'm a little bit biased. i understand just how hard an athlete works for four years of their life to make one of these teams. most of the athletes i would say agree with me that there is one moment where we can set aside our differences and compete for the love of sport and love of country. let's allow the olympic movement to be that moment and to bring us together. what i am concerned for is americans that come out here and really push tboundaries. i would be just nervous for my american teammates at the winter olympics who may be push the boundaries even further. i want them to speak out and also speak out against any injustices they see but i would not like to see any of my teammates end up in prison.
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>> we are heard about besides just speaking out, maybe wearing arm bands or doing some nor visible display of support for gay and lesbian athletes. is what you're talking about when you say push the boundaries? >> yeah. one of the things i thought would be tactful and a great way to bring awareness and express my point is wear a rainbow pin while i competed but the officials made it clear that would be violating the law a little bit too in your face. and so i know that one of the swedish runners wore rainbow nail polish. that is pushing the boundaries a little bit and seeing what exactly this law means. it is still vin very ambiguously. i have a feeling in sochi the downers will be protested much more. >> congratulations on the medal and thanks so much for coming on
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tech pioneer steve jobs who has been compared to thomas edison, walt disney and henry ford gets a biopick that hits theaters nationwide today. >> what about enterprise computers? >> no, no. "star trek." i will drive this car right off roth road. >> fine. >> it needs to be something you see and it's just like, man, i just got to have it. >> apple. >> excuse me? >> apple. >> apple like the fruit? >> the fruit of creation.
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apple. it's simple and comes first in the phone book too. >> that is so much better than facer beam computers. >> i'm joined by michael stern. good morning. >> good morning. >> when i read walter isaacman's biography i thought what a great movie this would make. he is so complex. who would be crazy enough to make this movie? apparently the answer is you. how tough was it? >> i mean, it was really sort of one of those things i could not help but do. to make a movie that has a message about one of the most important people in history. ashton delivers what is ultimate a performance. to me it was the right time to make this movie. >> what do you want people to walk away from the movie thinking or feg feeling?
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>> steve jobs says tend of the movie when you wake up and realize that your life was built by people no smarter than you is the message. you have to build your life and not just live it. to me that was steve's legacy. he was a guy in a garage that created this invention that was the largest in the world. to me that drew me to the material. >> he is also somebody who i think was is as inspiring as he was maddening. >> yes. >> he could be as charismatic as he was mean and i use that word that people who knew him used. that's a complexity, i think, that's a little difficult and how did you sort of get your arms around what to portray in his sort of vast history? >> well, i wanted to tell all sort of story and film about him. this was a man totally obsessed and obsession is uncompromising. people uncompromising usually have that one focus and sort of
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agitated, you know, approach about life where if you're not on his train or sort of joining his vision, you're either with him or against him. i think steve had a lot about that. but a lot of his story is about being misunderstood. he started when he was very young. he took a year no one would answer his calls. i think in many ways it's the story how do you take vision and what is the business of vision. >> i don't know if you ever met him, but i just wonder, as you were doing your research and you were deciding how this movie would look and what your focus would be, did you like him? >> i ended up really appreciating and sort of ultimately loving him. i think that steve showed love in the way that he produced and he created and he introduced his products. his products were how he showed love. and the movie sort of amplifies how his personal relationship suffered but the way that he was able to really go out there into the world and express himself was getting things to people
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that made their life easier the way we communicate and lef our liars and that is how he expressed himself. >> joshua michael stern. the movie is "jobs." good luck with it and thanks for cominging on program. thomas roberts is up next. movie got i would say mixed reviews although "rolling stone" liked ashton kutcher. i think there is something compelling about steve jobs no matter what, right? >> i saw the film and i thought it was very interesting and i think ashton kutcher does a good job at pulling off a very complex role. people have to go and make up their own mind about it but certainly steve jobs revolutionized our time. chris, have a great day. >> as seen here. >> exactly. friday, of rage. a bloody day in egypt as hundreds take to the streets. should president obama call this a coup and suspend u.s. aid? we will ask state department spokeswoman jen sacky. now she supp. she is down.
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we want you to eat some peaches and tell us what you think. they're really juicy. it must have just come from the farm. this right here is ideal for me. walmart works directly with growers to get you the best quality produce they've ever had. what would you do if i told you all this produce is from walmart? wow! is it really? (laughter) find fresh peaches and all your quality produce. backed by our 100% money back guarantee. walmart. good morning. i'm thomas roberts. rapidly unfolding events in egypt. cairo has been building to a boiling point and seeing blood shed on what the muslim brotherhood is calling friday of rage saying 25 people have been killed after they took to the streets to demonstrate against the deadly military crackdown against supporters of president mohammed morsi in that country. nbc's richard engel spoke to some of those protesters.
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>> our house again before getting our freedom from the people here in egypt. >> i'm here actually to defend democracy and to restore legitimacy and like have been having a massacre. >> the military beefed up its presence all across cairo. prior to today's protesters, we already had more than 600 confirmed dead and some 4,000 injured and we are still expecting to see that number go up. in many cases, families are still waiting to identify and bury their dead with mosques now doubling as morgues. president obama is facing fire from all sides for his response to the death and violence taking place in egypt. >> don't take sides with any particular party or political figure. that kind of approach will do nothing to help egyptians achieve the future that they deserve.

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